bawbag33
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Post by bawbag33 on Aug 3, 2006 0:45:31 GMT -5
You have runners at first and second, one out.
The batter hits a weak roller up the 1st baseline to and with the infield playing shallow, the 1st baseman rushes in, tags the batter and fires to third (or second) for the force out and inning ending double play.
However he finds the runners at first and second have not moved, as the realised the batter would not reach first base, they held their positions and are called safe!
Or are they ?
Is there a rule that the runner from 1st must advance on any hit ? I know that if on baserunner passes another then the overtaking baserunner is out, but I can find nothing to say a runner on a base must try to advance when the ball is put in play.
If this is the case, why dont MLB sides drill runners on 1st not to move when a weak DP ball is hit, and simply allow the batter to be out by overtaking on the basepaths ?
Please help out this is driving me mad
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ericbrat20
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Post by ericbrat20 on Aug 3, 2006 1:25:31 GMT -5
The runners don't have to advance because the batter was tagged out meaning the force play is taken away. The runners can then retreat to their original base because they don't have to advance to the next base to allow the runner behind them to reach the base. In order to record the double play a tag must be made on the runner because there is no longer a force at the next base.
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bawbag33
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Post by bawbag33 on Aug 3, 2006 4:24:29 GMT -5
I agree, I dont understand why teams run into dps, when the runner at 1st could simply sty put on a normal DP ball.
Now same set up but assuming the batter hits a ball to the second baseman, if he then throws to 1st who tags the base then the batter is out, but if the runner on 1st already sees that it will be a double play, then surely he can stay put and even though the 1st baseman has put out the batter with a force play, he is still safe on 1st.
If the 1st baseman waits for the batter to reach 1st, then the batter will be out for overtaking anyway and the runner on 1st is still safe.
Is this the case ?
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Post by strosfan4ever730 on Aug 3, 2006 15:06:02 GMT -5
yes but if its first and second and 1 out and a grounder to second they will throw to second then first to get the very easy dp.
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