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Post by nyjyrk on Jun 20, 2007 22:05:18 GMT -5
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Post by tomservo on Jul 5, 2007 3:27:20 GMT -5
You can't deny the guy has talent, too bad it got buried under all the allegations of cheating.
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Post by basenoc on Jul 5, 2007 7:07:47 GMT -5
it's a shame people always condemn when you're just accused of something. i had a friend accused by his then 14yr old daughter, that he molested her. oh yeah we(including me) villified him to the point of physical abuse, and he spunt 5yrs in prison. to make a long story short, the lil b*tch lied through her teeth, she came clean when she was 20yrs old.
only believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
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Post by tomservo on Jul 7, 2007 19:21:53 GMT -5
How about getting caught with a corked bat?
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Post by basenoc on Jul 7, 2007 20:37:50 GMT -5
How about getting caught with a corked bat? don't go there with that one. thats like vasoline on your cap. you know how many players/HOFers would have their records adjusted if MLB had REALLY worried about these issues.
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Post by tonyo on Jul 8, 2007 13:02:29 GMT -5
SIZE...Like they say, it means something. Sosa was a 20 HR / 20 SB guy and all the sudden he becomes Mickey Mantle ?
Look at Sosa, Juan Gonzalez, Palmiero, Canseco, McGwire, Bonds... Check out old baseball cards of them. Yes, adult bodies mature but they don't transform into " Supermen ".
Give me a clean cut talent like Aaron, Mays, Frank Robinson, Ted Williams, Al Kaline , etc.. ANYTIME over these basically, freaks of nature. Like I said in an earlier post...Would they have been so dominant if ALL players could use steroids ? If it wasn't cheating then why are they trying to hide it or worse yet, denying they used it. It's pitiful, just plain pitiful.
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Post by basenoc on Jul 8, 2007 15:42:54 GMT -5
if you ever played, it would make no difference how a player looked. you still have to play the game, period. baseball is that rare game where body type is irrelevant, someone is always faster, stronger, bigger, throw better, shorter, thinner, fatter, more accurate......
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Post by tonyo on Jul 14, 2007 11:29:10 GMT -5
If it did not improve their performance then why did they bother to take it ? Bonds went from a 30 HR guy to a 70 HR guy. Sosa went from 20 to 60. If it was not cheating then why is it not legal ?
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Post by basenoc on Jul 14, 2007 15:01:56 GMT -5
If and i mean if they took anything, baseball had nothing in place during that time that stated taking this or that was illegal. steroids thing has been in place 4yrs now. oh yeah, by the way ketchup is now illegal, you'll be banned for life for prior use, LOL
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Post by tonyo on Jul 14, 2007 22:24:14 GMT -5
So you're saying that if Arturo Gatti would have walked into the ring tonight against Alfonso Gomez with a ball bat it would have been OK ? That is the only way he could have won. That's blatant cheating. NO WAY Bonds would have broke the records if everything was on the up and up...
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Post by tonyo on Jul 14, 2007 22:26:16 GMT -5
That photo of the Three Stooges...That's Bonds, Sosa and Canseco...
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Post by nyjyrk on Jul 15, 2007 8:39:39 GMT -5
Does that make McGwire Schemp?
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